although we saw some dangers of this moving in the direction of the muslim brotherhood, that's not foreordained. perhaps what would be the most damaging to their vision of the future of the arab or the islamic world is a more participatory -- >> are they putting economics oil ahead of democracy, human rights, is it over completely? is there some middle ground the united states needs to get to? >> good people from both parties in multiple administrations over the years have had to make these serious kinds of tradeoffs. you asked me about mubarak leaving. and the first is it's hard to imagine an egyptian government that would be more supportive of peace with israel, more supportive of our objectives with regard to the palestinians,