financing with four square. people say you've had all these successes. we haven't had it yet. we're still working towards it. >> what do you think the features or factors that help make foursquare possible? >> there is a bunch of them. there's incubation labs, shared spaces where companies are getting together, five or six different companies and trading resources, skill sets and are able to makes things happen. in new york we see a lot of that as funded by the city. the sfas migpace might be paid . start-ups can come to these spaces for minimal costs and start building something. >> you think government investment in helpful. >> i think are you seeing in new york that it already works. >> do you think there's something about technology particular lay in america? i mean why is it that i look at germany, lots of engineers, amazing technical manpower.