with that. but this might be a time to really be to investigate if gadhafi is going to step down, how long before he steps down, how long will his son saif stay in power, how many seats in the coalition government would the other side have? it's a lot about whether you can trust saif here. he's spoke on the a lot of people in the west over the last two or three years, trying to convince people that he would change the face of libya. i was one of those, he spent three hours with me. but when he became the butcher long side his father, you had to believe, what was that all about about wanting to westernize it? the guy seems to be like his father. some of the elements here are i think wes is right, gadhafi is going to go, the question is who's going to succeed and could you live with a brief transition in the hands of the son and how many guarantees do you have on that? >> we'll take a quick break on that point. if you're just joining us, a political offer, a diplomatic offer from one of gadhafi's
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