ground and in the air. i don't think it will lead to close air strikes that the rebels want in support of what they're doing. >> do you think, clearly the e.u. believes putting troops on the ground is necessary to aid the humanitarian effort. could ground troops end this thing, finally? >> it depends how many. in 3w0z nia, we had a no fly zone for three years, that did not prevent severnicha. we put forces on the ground under a u.n. resolution, that ended it. i don't see a stomach to put large ground forces on the ground in libya. >> you don't? >> no. >> misrata is overwhelmed, nato today said that they don't believe there are signs that gadhafi's going to go. so what can be done next if not troops? >> good question. i think what needs to happen, go back to the resolution, 1973. all necessary actions to protect civilians, i think what you need