>> is there really anything that you can do? because you don't have access to the information -- i mean, no one know where is they are. what do you -- how do you pass the time? >> you basically wait. "the new york times" was in touch with us every single day. they were calling us, e-mailing us when they had news and didn't have news. all you have to do is wait. i was trying to call steve's phone all the time, because the first few days we didn't know where they were. they were missing. no one called us or took responsibility or said that they had them. so i was trying to call his phone. they were ringing but no one answered. so i was basically thinking maybe they managed to run away and hide the phones or maybe something more terrible happened to them. >> everyone wants to help, as well. which i always -- which is difficult, as well. because it kind of exhausts you,