per capita income and that's ultimately what everybody really counts on, and per capita income will take a long time in china to catch up with u.s. proper perity. >> neumann said china would take overtake the u.s. in the 2040s or 2050s. regardless it's not a question of if but when and we will be talking about this again and again until it does. >> we certainly will and the way it's going it will happen earlier at the moment. it's interesting, charles. every time we talk about china statistics everybody looks at them with a little bit of suspicion. you can't argue against the trend, can you? >> well, yes. definitely not. here is something that underlines all of that, andrew. there's more evidence of china's immense economic might. according to sources cited by "the financial times" a chinese