just as the birth announcement in the local paper back in 1961 showed. just as friends of his family have said for years. just as experts and officials have been saying on this program night after night. if you've been watching, you've seen plenty of people, not just donald trump, but elected officials expressing doubt over the years and basing legislation on those unsubstantiated doubts and claims. here are some of the birthers we've interviewed on this program over the last few years. representative wagner, do you believe that president obama is a citizen of the united states? >> well, i don't really -- i'm not really qualified to say whether i believe he is or not. it's irrelevant to me. >> what do you mean you're not qualified to say whether he is or not? >> there's been no proof offered, and as far as belief, it doesn't matter what i believe. >> how can you say there's been no proof offered? there's a certificate of live birth, shown by his campaign in 2008, which has, you know, the seal of -- the raised seal of