>> but i mean, the information is out there. i mean, it has been released. it has been shown. there are some people who don't believe it. but there are also some people who believe that the moon is made out of cheese. and you can see you've never investigated it. but i think you would probably say the moon is not made out of cheese. >> well, i certainly would. >> well, today the president did what the doubters wanted him to do all along. he released the long-form birth certificate. yet some of those very same birthers, the people you've seen on this program, they still don't buy it. and america's leading birther, donald trump, who said on our program on monday he believes the birth certificate could be missing. that's what he said his source told him, it was missing or wasn't there. he isn't persuaded quite yet. even as trump takes credit for getting the document released, even as he continues to peddle unfounded insinuations about president obama's education. we're keeping them honest tonight. first, take another look. a copy of the original long-form document, what hawaii calls the certificate of live birth. that's what they call their birth certificate, the