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the death of osama bin laden comes in the middle of historic changes sweeping the arab world. longtime dictators have fallen to pro democracy movements, while others are using violence to cling to power, often brutal brutal measures. i want to talk about that with two special guest, "new york times" columnist christopher is joins and from the studies program of the john hopkins school of advanced international studies. thanks so much. all of the demonstrations we saw in north africa an middle east, you didn't hear a lot of people chanting for osama bin laden, chanting for democracy and reform. the death of bin laden, how will this impact the arab spring? >> bin laden, by the time he died, he had truly become irrelevant, particularly for younger arabs. he was more popular, osama bin laden in the afghan theater,

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