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>> mark, what about leasing our highways? is that a good idea? >> europe has done quite a bit of good with that with respect to provation of the highways, but, again, these are small miniscule dollar. we have a $14.5 trillion debt and a $1.6 trillion deficit. my problem is when you begin selling these assets, quite frankly, you're not investing, you're paying off the debt. whereas the government holds enormous mining assets which could be given out in leases which results in a recurring revenue and creates jobs therefore improving the tax base. i think these ideas are not a good idea. it's rather flip aunt and not a strong approach. >> these are strong opinions.

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