diversify myself? people think venus williams, monolithic, tennis great. but you felt it was important to demonstrate that there are other interests, other things, other abilities. >> growing up, my parents, they always said you can't just be an athlete. like a lot of other parents, you have to get good grades. we made a joke, we were allergic to bad grades because we knew there would be big trouble. we never brought them home. we were always encouraged to explore ourselves outside of tennis. our parents took us for lessons for music and languages and we were always encouraged to get a higher education and those kind of things. if i say encouraged, it means -- >> you're going to do it. >> you need to do it. i felt like i had a choice, but maybe i didn't. >> you're going to be 31 in