bachmann support? >> well, right. the assumption is that they would be competing for the same value vote, social conservatives, that they appeal to both in iowa and they have to fight it out. she is well known for her policy. she's been on capitol hill sort of crafting language. and she's also known very well for raising a lot of money and she could possibly stand toe to toe with sarah palin for a little while. nonetheless, you talk to people that worked for palin and this woman can save -- raise money unbelievably and she would probably just blow bachmann right out of the water. at least on finances. >> well, both of us would love to see a race of any sort. any time it's exciting, we're for it. that's all i can say. >> joe johns, thanks. appreciate it. >> thank you. i want to talk more about