they did say so in the first place 60 years ago. they said europe will progress through crisis. this is what's happening at the moment, and the eurozone is progressing, it's changing. its characteristics are going to be different from what it was two or three years ago. it is evolving throughout the crisis, but i have no doubt in my mind that the euro partners are determined to keep it alive and to keep it solid with a different architecture than two, three years ago but with a more solid one. it's just taking a bit of time to emerge. >> reporter: but it's fundamentally changing? >> it is changing, no doubt. no doubt. from a pure monetary and currency union, it's morphing into an economic union, a fiscal union with rules, with disciplines, with sanctions, with a bailout mechanism, with a european stability mechanism, and with a corrective