one, why is there a different margin with women in background states versus the overall. secondly, what do you think of his suggestion that clinton is looking to expand the electoral map into red states like arizona? >> i don't have a good answer with regard to the first question and why there's such a distinction, but i think we've seen enough polls now to show that the gender gap is big, bigger than we've seen in decades and that he's not making any positive gains there, which is a real problem. again, making some efforts. melania trump trying to soften his hard edges among women and so forth. we'll see what happens. i think that -- you see this in campaigns. sometimes it can be a head fake to try to go into states and say it's tighter than it is. you see the polling out of arizona, which means they've got an opportunity, the clinton campaign, to extend this map and try to win this in a more commanding fashion. they're putting money, they're putting chelsea clinton there, and michelle obama going to arizona as well. >> david, jackie, thank you. so join us tomorrow night