thank you so much for joining us. >> happy to be with you. >> thank you. so you say it was not a quid pro quo, why not? >> because the facts don't bear that out, kate. we looked at this. the fbi looked at this. there were two conversations happening, you know, simultaneous. yes, we did, pat kennedy did ask the fbi to reconsider classifying this particular e-mail. he wanted a better understanding quite frankly of why they wanted it to be secret. we didn't think it needed to be. we lost that argument, the state department, i'm sorry, the fbi won and the document ended up being classified secret. at the same time, yes, the fbi did consult with pat in the context, you know, of multiple conversations. it did talk about wanting some more authorities and some more slots in places like iraq. ultimately, we decided that that wasn't warranted and they didn't get those extra slots. but these were two separate issues discussed in parallel. there was no quid pro quo. there was no bargain. there was not even a bargain suggested or hinted at either side.