the whole thing is rigged against me. the core point is that he was losing the race going into last night's debate and he had an opportunity to try to get some traditional constituencies back. what ron talks about so often, n the college educated voters. >> panel, thank you very much for all of those insights. hold that thought, ron, we'll be back to you at some point. >> we're coming back right after the break and also on "new day" we'll hear from both campaigns. the vice presidential nominee tim kaine will be here and trump campaign manager kellyanne conway will be here in the next hour, as well. donald trump's refusal to accept the election results was the stunning moment of the debate, but it wasn't the only one. also plenty of clashes on policies. we'll break down all of those big moments for you, next. >> i thought there was a bigger one.