talking about is interesting. that is she has benefitted from something unusual. that is white voters with college degrees are trending toward hillary clinton. she may win them by ten points when even obama who came close lost them. whether that is a part of the democratic coalition is an open question. if marco rubio were in the race, i'm not so sure. >> this is an insular part of the white america. >> go ahead. >> we can talk about ohio again. it looked like he was pulling ahead in ohio and "the columbus dispatch" showed it a dead heat. they are tied right now. there is room. >> it was dead even on election day in 2012. turnout made it big for obama. >> absolutely.