>> i want to talk about this draining the swam. has to provide a lobbying form and when officials leave the government they will be banned for being a lobbyist for five years. i want to talk to you about this. how much of this is really draining the swamp? is there any way for people to get around this? is this going to maybe discourage people from joining or can they just basically lobby without registering as a lobbyist and it doesn't actually drain the swamswamp? >> that's the key one. the registration rules are kind of fuzzy. however, five years is a long time. obama also ran on an anti-lobbyist theme. >> they were waived in. >> they were waived in. will donald trump do that. i do think they are going to lose some people who look at that and say five years, i don't think i can do that. i need to have a livelihood in d.c. it's a very lucrative business, we cannot overstate that at all. bob cusack with the hill, editor and chief, thank you. thank you so much for watching