piece by piece and move wood and debris to get an assessment. there's a lot to be done still. we'll be back in an hour to talk to you at about 11:00. and then we'll be putting out a statement from the city and the county in regards to this. [ inaudible ] >> i am sergeant ray kelly. i am the spokesperson for the alameda sheriff's office which we're dealing with the coroner, as well. we run our coroner's bureau which deals with this massive fatality event. >> can you tell us today about -- [ inaudible ] >> the fire started about 11:30 last night. this fire -- we've been on scene since. the fire has recently been extinguished. we're dealing with the hot spots and making the building safe so that we can go inside and begin to recover the deceased people.