that's vern walking toward us. >> when i got there, we unloaded and i had a feeling of foreboding. >> this man, larry layton, was a faithful follower of jones. he worried congressional aide jackie speier. >> the only thing that was really bothering me was that all of a sudden larry layton had decided he was a defector. i just had a gut instinct. you just have intuition. >> jackie speier seen here, got people moving toward this plane, a 19-seat otter. that's jerry parks walking with his wife. tracy parks and her brother dale got on the smaller plane, so did larry layton and vern gosney. >> the pilots started the plane and we were taxiing, and we were coming down the runway to take off and then the tractor trailer