>> and an indonesian you can throw in there. >> and an indonesian. are you comfortable with this characterization of you? >> i am, actually. and the concept of race in america is not just genetic, otherwise, the one drop rule wouldn't have made sense. it's cultural. it's this notion of a people who look different than the mainstream. suffering terrible oppression, but somehow being able to make out of that a music and a language and a faith and a patriotism. >> being black meant only the knowledge of your own powerlessness and your own defeat. >> barack obama once felt quite differently about race. >> and the final irony should you refuse this defeat and lash out at your captors, they would have a name for that, too. a name that could cage you just as good.