communicating, not only the dry policy aspects of this, but that we care about these communities. that we're bleeding for these communities. >> right. >> that we understand why they're frustrated. >> so, he's talking to david axelrod's podcast and talking about how the democrats and especially hillary clinton did not reach out to people in the midwest and rust belt and they essentially lost. matt lewis, weigh in on that. what do you think? is the president right? >> everybody should be listening to pod casts because you'll get that conversation that i like. so, check that out. but, no, i think he is right. i mean, clearly, i think the big secret of this election and the turning point is that the democratic party used to be the party of working class americans. and, you know, and at least the perception was the republican party was the party of the rich and the democratic party was the party of the working man. and that, you know, if you're working class white guy, certainly, in the rust belt or