show some of that evidence now. >> exactly. now what they could do, an alternative is to give the cia a finding, a convert action finding, which would allow the president to retaliate against russia in secret. all he has to do is write this finding. the cia implements it. the intel committees are informed. and let's say, for instance, he -- he could ask the cia to hack russian computers. look into putin and his corruption around him. that's a alternative. if he doesn't want go the sanctions way or simply put out the information. it may indeed be very, very secret and sources and methods would be compromised which he won't do. and by the way if he does this, he's going to set up incredible trap for trump to. have a finding like this. the intel committee is informed and trump is going to be hard put to withdraw that finding