not necessarily about breaking with him. it's genuinely learning about where his administration is going to go. we've reported that he chose people very specifically to really run, really run a lot of these cabinets, unlike presidents in the past who have done a lot of it from inside the west wing, he wants, for example, rex tillerson to be a really strong secretary of state and mattis to be a really strong secretary of defense and help to shape policies. what they say really will be an indicator of where a trump administration will go. >> today he's receiving a lot of foreign visitors at trump tower. today he received jack ma, the head of alibaba. he he escorted him into the lob and made an appearance before cameras. a french billionaire, louis vuitton, all sorts of other