with us. >> so, bill, is it possible that, you know, the pr fight applies to obamacare, that the republicans, for six or seven years, have been saying it's a disaster, and despite the coverage of 20 million people, people have started believing that. >> i thought that was a very insight i haveful remark by the president, a very candid remark. i think he's absolutely true, that the obama campaign, which we remember had an incredible message machine, flawless, during the 2008 campaign, crushed hillary clinton with that message machine, once it got to the white house, they foundered in a lot of ways, and one of the ways is in selling obamacare, and the more that republicans went out and said, over and over again, lahnee, right, it's a disaster, it's a disaster, this is falling apart, americans are being hurt, blah, blah, blah, the white house, nor the democratic party, were there saying, hey, this is working, and here's how it's working. no, they lost the message battle, and that's where the fix we're in today.