she isn't a size 2. there are many things that kept her outside the lens of appearing as a docile and kept woman. she looked like hard-working, sophisticated, clear-minded plaq black women that you see on the bus, let alone anywhere. >> and she was the professional in the family and the bread winner and i hate to say that, really smart. two ivy league degrees. so kate, michelle obama's going to leave the white house with incredibly high approval ratings, even higher than her husband's, so what do we know about what she's going to be doing going forward? >> i think she's relieved partially to have a bit of freedom. but still shocked over the election results and what's going to happen over the next few years. i think we're going to see her continuing some of the "let's move" campaign, looking at food