a congressman, i'm just not going to support anybody who's being put into the department in order to rip health care away from 400,000 of my constituents. so i was a no vote frankly going into the hearing, but now i think there's real questions as to whether he can clear these conflicts of interest. >> you also were of course questioning betsy devos, trump's pick for education secretary, testifying before your committee last night. you asked her specifically if guns should be in schools or around schools. i just want to play that exchange for people. this is not something that can be paraphrased. >> i think that's best left to locales and states to decide. if the underlying question is -- >> you can't say definitively today that guns should .in schools? >> well, i will refer back to senator enzi and the school that he was talking about in wyoming. i think probably there i would imagine that there's probably a