able to commit to us today, that that -- that the number of uninsured children will not increase under your -- during your time as secretary for ywer to be confirmed and the number of uninsured would not increase? >> our goal it is to decrease the number of uninsured population under age 18 and over age 18. >> i hope you maintain that because i think that's going to be critically important. the reason i ask that question is not just to validate that as a critically important goal for the nation, but it's -- your answer seems to be contrary or in conflict with what you have advocated for as a member of the house of representatives, not only in your individual capacity but as chairman of the budget committee. looking at now for reference a -- an op-ed by gene spurling.