chapeaus working on this side of the border, on mexico's side, too, and they're building tunnels. there's nothing you can do if there are millions of americans who use drugs in this country and as long as you have millions of americans using drugs you have drug traffickers in mexico and central america bringing the drugs. when it comes to illegal immigration they'll keep them coming and when it comes to drugs they'll keep coming with a wall or without a wall. there are many other ways to spend $40 billion. >> the president has called for a 5,000-person increase in customs and border protection personnel. do you think that doesn't make a difference? >> might make a difference. they are not calling that a deportation force. but he'll go from 21,000 to 26,000. and this is creating a lot of fear within the hispanic community and within the immigrant community. so what is that going to mean to many families?