>> there is no talking about it. as opposed to the top 40. >> the ramones were part of a wider new york scene. >> i'm an artist. rock 'n' roll is my art. >> the dead boys. >> anybody can play. i belong to them. >> richard was one of the first to cut his own hair and safety win pinning them together. >> the safety pin thing is his. it's clear ha he invented that. in england punk rock is not a musical statement. it is a social one. >> if punk had a homer to homer territory, it's in the 60s.