the president who has offered up bold claims without evidence or with evidence that directly comes out that directly contradicts him. 3 to 5 million illegal votes in the election, the biggest electoral vote since reagan, don't even get me started about crowd size at the inauguration. when it comes -- that is just since he was elected. so amy, why should americans believe him on this one? >> kate, no offense to you guys, but you know what, the american people are with the president. the ones that elected him are with him. and -- >> i don't question that at all. >> all this negativity that day in and day out, it's always something negative, it's always a story. >> amy, he brought this up. he brought this up. he raised this on saturday. and if we didn't talk about it,