and so at this -- if the recommendations to make the white house safer in every way have gone unheeded and no changes have been made and they're still discussing it and all of that, why? >> jonathan, questions you might have? >> i absolutely agree. l listen. you're putting the agents in a very difficult position. i think in this case, this is a successful ending. the structure of the white house prevailed. the circles of protection around the white house, you know, proved its value. the first line of defense, though, is that fence line. and it's inadequate. it's been determined to be inadequate. it needs to be resolved right away and that means dhs and congressional funding now to yi initiate that change. >> that suspect getting just within a few hundred yards away from the president who was in the white house at the time. but as we know, there was no contact, direct contact between that suspect and the president. the approximate is okay, right?