monday. that very same day it's announced okay that hearing is canceled. >> you can surmise that the deputy attorney general was a particularly painful potential witness. she was at the senter of the whole michael flynn thing and stone, manafort, carter, page. flynn is the one person who lost his job. and so i do think probably her testimony would have been particularly difficult for this white house. >> does this surprise you to learn that the new york times were reporting that jared kushner during the transition met at the suggestion of the russian ambassador with this guy from a russian bank that is under sanctions and the russian bank -- the white house was saying oh, no, this was a pre fungtry courtesy meeting. this was a business meeting with