>> i guess the statement -- i mean, when i first read the statement from chairman nunes' spokesperson, saying that he had not asked for immunity before the house intelligence committee, it seemed at odds with your reporting, but also the lawyer's statement. but when you read the lawyer's statement closer, it basically -- it doesn't use the term "immunity." so -- and the lawyer does say that they have had talks with the house intelligence committee. so really it's kind of maybe a question of semantics. >> it's maybe a question of semantics, but if you look at the lawyer statement in our discussions with various sources, you know, he is seeking immunity. what he's asking for is to be able to cooperate and to deliver testimony in exchange for not being prosecuted in some way, because of something that he were to say or something that may arise in that. so, it's -- everyone's kind of parsing words here.