away from my former agency, the ftc. >> okay. so "the washington post" had this encapsulation. put it up on the screen in terms of what the rules would have done. under the rules internet providers must get your explicit permission to share or sell things such as your geolocation information, your health information, your children's information, your financial information, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. to me that sounds like a good thing, yeah, you should have to get my explicit permission. what's wrong with that? >> well, i think as a theory there's nothing wrong with that. i think in terms of the way that the fcc effectuated its privacy proposal, or tried to, is deeply flawed. let me take you through the facts. one fact is for 20 years the ftc had oversight over the entire internet ecosystem including broadband providers. and broadband providers were not selling personal information. s in fact, they have all made