cheap, though. look, as a father, i can try to understand. president obama said being a dad, having a child is like having your heart living outside your body. i completely understand where jimmy kimmel is coming from, the passion i think is sincere. i don't think that this is the right move for him to do to politicize this. this is a guy who is incredibly rich, of course. he is not going to have a problem. the truth is -- >> he is -- he is making a moral point that people should be allowed to get insurance. >> that's why i tune in to jimmy kimmel to get him making moral points. look, people do get coverage. if you go to the emergency room, they take care of you. that was part of the reason that mitt romney came up with this -- >> one of the reasons people go bankrupt is from health care costs. that is just simply not true. it's not true that you can get care. >> the notion that republicans are getting rid of pre-existing