>> i don't think conspiratorial. we have a history. lyndon johnson owned tv stations. that's how he made his fortune in texas. and by manipulating fcc licensing so that only he had stations in those areas. look, feel will play this system if they can. and i'll tell you what, speaking of david, and his understanding of rupert murdoch, think back to that 2011 hacking scandal when he was in huge trouble in great britain, and he went in to that hearing and he was like, oh, i'm an old man, i can't hear your questions, i'm weak. it was pure cabaret. it was pure theater. he will do anything he can to get out of this kind of trouble. and i think this trouble he is in now with fox news is almost as bad as the hacking stuff. the hacking was so reprehensible because it involved hacking into the phone of a dead girl, hacking into soldiers, the phones of soldiers who were killed. this is of the same caliber as