thorough. let him do izhis job. >> it's interesting what you just said about him, it would keep him from doing his job, considering the leaks and all of this. also, "the new york times" reporting that the russians tried to use paul manafort to influence donald trump. this adds to cnn's reporting that the russians tried to recruit former national security adviser, michael flynn. how troubling is this? >> i don't think it's just a question of troubling. "the times" story is a hugely significant story. it's a momentous story in that we now have what a lot of us have known for a while, that much of this investigation is going to focus on paul manafort, the manager of the trump campaign, who had these extensive relationships with -- in the ukraine, with people connected to putin's administration in russia, et cetera. it doesn't mean that, necessarily, that he's broken any laws. that's what the investigation is for. but what we now have before us