>> i mean, it is not a hard question, right? do you believe the 97% of scientists, or do you belief ve the 3% of scientists? easy question. what bothers me most about this is even if he got an answer, i don't know how much good it'd do us. it'd change again depending on who he talked to last. what bothers me about him pulling out of the paris accord is that this is just him continuing to decide that it is not important that america be a leader in the world. i happen to think, whether you're talking about climate change or anything else, that the world and america, it's a safer place when america is in a position of leadership. >> and i couldn't agree for. that's why i think the u.s. needs to be leading on the economy. again, smart leaders, strong leaders don't enter into deals like this, where china doesn't have to reduce any of their carbon emissions until 2013. where the u.s. is going to have to reduce it by 26% to 28% over the next few years. that's not being a leader, it is