the metropolitan police were quite extraordinary. i think we need to pay tribute to the police officers, the hospitals, the fire brigade came out. there's a whole range of public sector organizations that came out. >> including the current met chief, cressida dick, said part of that reason was because of lessons learned certainly in the last three months since westminster and obviously, you know, before. but the high alert the police are under and the high state of readiness, she said, contributed to the swift neutralizing of these attackers. >> yeah, yeah, absolutely. the police have been practicing for a number of years. if you look at where we were, sort of when i joined the police we used to have a gun in the police station. you had a call, you'd have to book the gun out. we're not in that position now. the threat level is totally different. i think we now have not only routinely armed officers, but we have more officers armed. i think what we saw in manchester was that the numbers of police officers have gone down. 20,000 police officers. >> you mean the police officers that patrol the community, not