don't know how far it does. the emphasis to do that. we don't have any reason to believe yet there was some substantial result from what was efforted. but look, it will add another layer, as you say, to those who are saying the russian efforts to go at the u.s. election we are deeper than believed. certainly media has tried to move past russia too fast. i think it all goes back to david's point, though. there's two things the president can say in response to all of this, e-mail hacks, doesn't delegitimize my election but outrageous and wrong for somebody to interfere. the president has time and again chosen not to do that and that's a human problem. >> this plays into it directly because it is clear the president hears anything that has to do with russia and interference as bad for him, this even will cut a little