those tapes will be subpoenaed by the house intelligence committee. now, either he has to turn over those tapes which may back up james comey's version of events or he has to admit he doesn't have them. the investigation is not only about trump now, it has reached jeff sessions and reached his son-in-law jared kushner. it, in other words, is reaching other members of the administration not just former members. three, trump continues to be unable to talk about the extent of whether or not russia influenced the 2016 election. he's trying to divert this on comey. repeating, by the way, that james comey is a liar and cannot be trusted. which is what upset comey in the first place. you add all that together and trump's counterattack, i suspect, is going to be in very serious trouble by monday morning. >> let's talk about this. you are suggesting these are just a matter of optics before you get into sworn testimony. things of that comes to optics,s