mississippi and saying they do have a duty to protect the privacy of their citizens and the integrity of their own elections that states run. again, via your reporting, not yours personally, but cnn's, it says from the request was public information, that doesn't run against state law. >> but to what end? why does the -- just so i'm clear, how does that help cut down on voter fraud? why does the white house need that? >> you see that the folks that are on the commission are actually from the state level that i saw. and i don't see a problem with trying to figure out if there was problems. there are a lot of people out there who do believe there is voter fraud. so -- >> but there is not widespread voter fraud. >> you say that, but that's -- >> i'm just reporting the data. >> you say that, but what is the problem in looking to it? just like what is the problem of looking to russian meddling and election, i don't see that, i think it is important to do so. >> sure. i'm just giving you facts and the data. >> as long as the states are able to --