suggested that ek perts are saying that russians were behind both the leak, the hacking of the dnc e-mails and their release. he seemed to be suggests this is part of a plot to help donald trump and hurt hillary clinton. your response? >> well, it goes to show you their moral compass. this is time and time again, lie after lie. he won't say, well, i say this. his house cat at home once said this is what's happening with the russians. it's disgusting. it's so phony. i don't mind a fair fight but the perpetuating of that nonsense to gain political capital is outrageous. he should be ashamed of himself. if a republican did that, they'd be calling for people to bring out the electric chair. >> jake tapper joins me now. jake, you watch this and think about the timing of this interview. it is noteworthy. weeks before was when he met