russian government seeking, as the e-mail said, to meet with the trump campaign, now the russian government once you take that meeting knows that it happened. and this is in the russian playbook, which is to gather compromising information on individuals and then to use it when it can effect their agenda. that's the kompromat where they put you in the position either you work for us, help us or we expose you. it's still too early to tell if that's what they were doing. they now have the evidence and that would be embarrassing to trump campaign. >> did it strike you the spl explicitness of the language? it didn't say hey, i might have something useful to you. it said this is incriminating evidence about hillary clinton from the russian government, which by the way wants to help your father win. that was remarkable. and donald trump jr.'s response was i love it. from the way russia operates.