this is not an anonymous source's story. this is not just a media story. this is not a leak from the intelligence community. this is a group of e-mails that donald trump jr. himself released. so that makes it much harder to argue with. because it's right there in black and white, what happened in this meeting. does that mean they were in this giant global conspiracy? not necessarily, and that meeting probably didn't change the face of the election at all, but it still refutes what they've been saying. >> and on top of it. garrett, you've written a book about the fbi essentially undercutting what the fbi director says about meetings like this. >> it was a striking scene in chris wray's nomination hearing yesterday in front of the senate judiciary committee where he said, in unequivocal terms, any time any campaign, any candidate gets an e-mail like this, they should be contacting federal authorities. the fbi would want to know about something like this. and we're seeing just sort of an evolving set of explanations, both donald trump jr. and the