who could that character be in that scenario? beyond that, you have -- would the senate, in light of not just being upset with this decision but also with their loyalty to a former fellow senator jeff session, how quickly do they go through the process of approving a presidential appointment to replace a jeff sessions? >> anderson, to that point, if you were trying to replace jeff sessions as a political matter, with someone who was as popular with the nationalist conservative base that trump has cultivated, i don't think you could get that person confirmed right now. at the end of the day, you have sessions who is popular with trump's base. if you try to confirm someone knew, the trump base wouldn't like whoever they get through. so sessions staying around may be the best thing for the president. >> sessions isn't just popular with the president's base, he's also popular with the movement