however, having said that, on the flip side, you have a lot of public servants who, like john mccain seven years ago was against the don't ask, don't tell repeal, and he's for this. >> scott's point is accurate about the divide. but isn't this just a wedge issue -- >> yes. >> -- that's being used to stoke that divide? >> by the president of the united states. i mean, it is bad when any politician does that, or any quote/unquote leader in america. that's bad. and it's dangerous. i used to run the crime victims agency. after hate like this comes out, we see hate crimes rise against the lgbt community, you can track it. this is the president. he should never be throwing entire groups of americans under the bus and saying they're less than other people. he should be or she should be the one who is bridging the divide, closing the -- bringing us together. this is the opposite. for pure political gain. leadership in elected officials