will continue to do what he is doing, minimizing nuclear warheads. this this case, the threat of force is, can be, a valuable addition to our diplomacy, but it has to be used very, very delicately. >> kelci, you disagree. you make the argument that diplomacy, talks have worked. if that's the case, why are we where we are now? why has north korea developed so much? >> what the white house needs to be doing is making a more concerted effort to send a direct signal to north korea. president trump's threats, the firy rhetoric is increasing the chance for miscalculation. now, secretary of state, rex tillerson is talking negotiations and that's good. when you have the secretary of state making one message and you have threats coming from the president, it's difficult for