and we needed to stay put. so, people were very alarmed. felt very threatened. we didn't know at that time that there were students there that were being assaulted by the alt-right around the statue. but we were trapped inside for our own safety. >> and you still feel -- i mean, you're still worried about your own safety, is that correct to say? >> yes. i was advised to stay in a safe house this past weekend, and i had security with me 24 hours. >> my goodness. >> i've been having to avoid certain figures and, you know, getting hate in the e-mail inbox and flyers under my windshield wiper and this sort of thing. >> back in june, there was a kkk rally in charlottesville, actually, boyd tinsley was telling us this had happened over the summer. and you wrote about this. >> it was july 8. >> forgive me. july. you wrote about the lessons of that experience. you said that america's house is